Tuesday, July 28, 2015

Mickey Kaus Explains Ann's 6 Points on Immigration

    On Tuesday, July 28, 2015, Mickey Kaus posted an explanation of why he wants less immigration, and a 6-point list of why Ann opposes immigration.

    Here are some quotes:

    On culture being important:
"If businessmen can make millions babbling about corporate "culture" — If Reddit can have a culture — why can’t we talk about the cultures from which immigrants come?... Thought experiment: What if the entire population of Central America, India, Bangladesh, Russia and Western China –some 1.8 billion people — miraculously moves to the U.S. in a month. Screen them for criminals and terrorists. Don’t change any U.S. laws to accomodate [sic] them. Construct plenty of housing and schools and roads in advance. In two years the country wouldn’t look anything like the country we know now, of course.  Do you think it would it retain the things we now value about America? That it would be a better place? Good. I don’t either. Now we are just haggling over the size and pace of the inflow." [Emphasis original.]

The beginning of point 5:
"5) Diversity sucks! According to Coulter, my idea of a Los Angeles in which Korean immigrants live with Latino immigrants to produce a vibrant synergistic whole is insane. Diversity is "a train wreck." Her big gun in this argument is the inconvenient work of a beloved liberal professor, Robert Putnam:

Contrary to his expectations–and desire –Putnam’s study showed that the greater the ethnic diversity, the less people trusted their neighbors, their local leaers, and even the news. People in diverse communities gave less to charity, voted less, had fewer friends, were more unhappy …It was not, Putnam said, that people in diverse conummnities trusted people of their own ethnicity more, and other races less. They didn’t trust anyone. …[This was copied exactly from Kaus, but he incorrectly quotes Ann. For instance, Ann did not misspell "leaers" and "conummnities."]


"I used to worry that someone who can get on TV would raise the issues Coulter raises... [and] just piss people off and open the door to discrimination. If you wring your hands about Mexicans who don’t acknowledge the Southern border, you’re apt to produce a lot of angry, ethnically self-conscious Mexican-Americans who might decide, hey, now that you mention it, you did steal our land.

But we seem beyond those worries now. Ethnic identity politics has arrived and put down roots ... [S]ome immigrant groups really don’t look at the border the same way we do. A majority (52% ) of Mexicans, in a respected Pew poll, agreed that “Mexicans have a right to be in the U.S.,” while fully 66% thought the “U.S. government has no right to limit immigration.” ... Meanwhile, opponents have to hold their tongues, which makes them angrier." [Emphasis and hyperlink both original.]

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